Friday, November 9, 2007

Our First Kara...

So the new guild did our firs Kara run on Wednesday.

Group consisted of the following. (At the start anyway)

Prot Warrior x2

Warlock x2

Fire Mage x1

Ice Mage x1

Holy Priest x1

BM Hunter x1

Ret Paly x1

And Me...

Just to make sure everyone is completely clear (Resto Shammy x1)

So our start time was 8:30, invites to go out at 8:15. We didn't start exactly on time, but we were in there by 8:45.

Also, due to some video card issues and people /gquitting earlier in the week for no real reason other than they like purple drops more than the people they play with, we were short 2 people.

Luckily we had a back-up plan already in place. We picked up a lock and the ice mage from the first guild I belonged to.

The beggining was a total joke. 6 of the 10 had experience in Kara through prince (not me), with a couple of those having substantial 25man raid experience with their other chars. Namely the tanks, which is a great thing.

So we steam through the trash before Attumen. Then proceed to demolish him on the first attempt. The only downside was that Druid and Holy Paly gear dropped. :( Oh well, no biggie. Not that downing Attumen is a terribly huge feat, but it was good to get that first kill under our belts. Especially for the first timers who had never done any kind of content beyond 5-mans. (Pre-BC UBRS doesn't count.)

Moving on to Moroes....

Well, Moroes wasn't the cake walk that Attumen was thats for damn sure.

Our 4 adds were as follows:

Lady Keira Berrybuck – Holy Paladin

Baroness Dorothea Milstipe – Shadow Priest

Lord Robin Daris – Mortal Strike Warrior

Lord Crispin Ference – Sword n’ Board Warrior

So...the word from the more experienced peeps was that this combo kind of sucks. And it certainly did. I'll cut to the chase right now, we didn't down Moroes.

Our first few attempts were mainly getting everyone comfortable with the pull.

2 prot warriors tank Moroes, while 1 picks up The Fury(or arms not sure) Warrior and Moroes.

Shackle the Holy Paly

Ice trap the MS Warrior.

Burn down the Shadow Priest....

At least that was the plan.

Things were moving pretty fast so specifics are a little hazy. Here are my thoughts on what went wrong though.

-Mana was an issue in the beginning as I didn't want people dying and wasn't sure how much time I had to get a heal off. I used a lot of Lesser Healing Waves and subsequently wasted a lot of mana.

-We just weren't picking up the adds fast enough and weren't burning down targets quickly either. Also, when a target would drop time would be lost switching to the next target.

So after a few attempts we switched out the Hunter for a shadow priest.

We tried different combos of shackling off tanking and what not but nothing worked. Our best attempt got moroes down to 9000hp before we wiped totally.

We were able to get about 7 attempts in, and learned something from each one.

In all honesty, a huge problem was lack of DPS. One attempt, myself and the Priest were trying to keep 6 people up that had been garroted. Including myself. Luckily the priest is a dwarf and could use Stoneform when hit with it.

The paly didn't know to use BoP on me, and when we finally got that sorted out we weren't able to get quality attempts on moroes.

We simply needed to burn down targets faster. We tried to have the paladin use turn undead, but with a 20 sec timer and a 30 second cooldown, if we aren't burning the first add down fast enough its kind of a moot point.

This post is all over the place I know. We had so many attempts that now they've all blended with each other and I can't remember what we did each time so doing a well thought out write up is difficult.

We're going back Sunday to try again.

Here are my thoughts.

One thing is that everyone needs vent, prefferably with a mic. I know that 1 person wasn't even able to listen in, and if everyone has a mic its a lot easier to call things out if something unexpected happens.

As far as a revised strat, here's what I've come up with. Provided there aren't any glaring holes in it (probably) and we can focus fire the adds fast enough.

We pull,

Shackle the Holy Paly.

Ret Paly tanks the shadow priest, and uses a /focus target macro to fear the arms warrior.

We shackle the Prot Warrior.

Burn down the Shadow Priest ASAP (god willing before the fear is broken)

Then, the Prot Paly and one of the tanks switches focus on to the Holy Paly. And switching shackles on to the Arms Warrior.

Once the Holy Paly is down, keep both warriors shackled and focus all fire on to moroes.

If I get garroted then the paly will BoP me.

If we have the DPS for it I hope we can burn him down before the garrotes become too much of a problem.

Also, if anyone has a beginner-ish Kara raid group that has downed Moroes and has a WWS report that would be great. I would like to see what the damage output for the raid should be to finish this encounter for those new to raiding.

Any and all advice is of course welcome.

P.S. I know this post sucks.











2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Don't have a WWS report from our first attempts, but here is what worked for us back when (some other strats work, but that is how we solved the puzzle):

- always have 2 priests in the group - less than that, you will not pass trying to control 3 adds for now,
- control one of the remaining adds through hunter's trap and paladin fear,
- kill the shadow priest first, interrupting spells (rogues and elem chaman help) - do not try and tank her, burn her down as fast as possible.

Kill the trapped/feared add second, then go to Moroes.

Hunter should place traps between shackled adds and priests just in case.

BoP should be kept for Priests only... if they die, adds go in the raid and wipe results.

With your present stats, you should do nicely, I have 1572 + heal / 128 MP5 / 9300 base mana now and go through the fight without problems. The only problem with your present stuff is that you are low on health, so the garrote will kill you fast.

Tips for you:
- macros to activate your trinkets whenever they are up,
- recast water shield as often as possible, the garrote will activate it.

Your raid probably has a DPS problem, which is typical when beginning Karazhan... make sure everyone has the right PVE template, the right enchants/gems (my rule was: any blue item can and will be enchanted), and bring some raid food to help (one of your previous posts mentioned you did not like fishing... OK... but how about a +20 stam/+8 MP5 nice blackened sporefish now?)

Brohuld

Anonymous said...

Good comments and review. Very Pleased. We did take Moroes down, but it is evident that the DPS is lacking a bit. Unfortunately, we are down a tank for our next run,so Savage Eidolon is recruiting!

Thanks for the advice Ash and Bro.

Esu Miwa
GL Savage Eidolon